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Pie & Mash - THERE IS A PIE & MASH SHOP IN ROMFORD AND ONE AT PORTEBELLA MARKET RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM PAST THE CLOTHES MARKET AND OVER THE BRIDGE AND YOU WILL FIND IT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE HOPE YOU WILL ENJOY IT. MY HUSBAND LOVES THEM BUT I DON'T GO A LOT ON THEM AS I AM NOT FROM LONDON |
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Anywhere Else? - Thanks, i know alot of the shop's in London, but I still really want to find one that's closer to where we live in Northampton. Also In London parking is a nightmare, and due to location lots of pie and mash shop's invove paying congestion charges. Does anybody know of anywhere else? |
3/13/2005 |
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Pie N Mash - I know the one in Romford, but there is a better one in Maldon, Essex......That is a little nearer to Nortampton.
Right now I am living in Australia and am dying for some English food, you can't even get proper chip shop chips here, its a nightmare!
Anyway I've decided to make my own. I've been searching through the world wide web in search of the recipe for liquor without success.....Can anyone help???? |
3/23/2005 |
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Pie N mash - there is also a pie and mash shop in waltham abbey. What is the best pie and mash shop in london? |
4/1/2005 |
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top pie& mash eater - Eel jelly & jello mash & water from mash salt is the key. |
4/8/2005 |
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- i go down to london twice a year and get come if you want to get in touch i can pick you some if you want split the petrol,i live in peterborough not to far away |
4/25/2005 |
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Pie, Mash and Liquor - The best one I know outside London is Whites in Walton on Naze in Essex. Very good. The best one in London is Cooks in West London, Goldhawk Road, London W11 - it has been there years and people queue to get in there. |
4/25/2005 |
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Pie and Mash - I am desperately searching for the recipe to make the pies for pie and mash. I think I know how to make the liquor but I understand the pies are not made with ordinary pastry - does anyone know how to make them??? |
4/25/2005 |
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lara@randellsaunders.co.uk - I need recipe for pie in pie and mash!!!!! urgently - live miles from London but miss pie and mash so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
4/26/2005 |
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recipe - http://www.hub-uk.com/foodpages36/1797.htm
try this website |
4/26/2005 |
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rgregory92@hotmail.com - I have been to the one in Romford, but the best one is Nathan's in the Barking Road near the Boleyn pub and the back of West Ham United's ground....IN THIS DAY AND AGE ISN'T THERE A PIE AND MASH DELIVERY SERVICE NATIONWIDE? |
4/26/2005 |
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New Pie & Mash opened in Leicester - I have just found a new Pie & Mash shop that has just opened in Leicester, it is on Market Place
There web address is www.piecompany.co.uk
Loads of info about there recipes. |
5/17/2005 |
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Pie & Mash - Sorry can't help, in the same boat, moved from London to Norfolk and there isn't one up here that's for sure!! They wouldn't even know what it is and when you tell them they turn their noses up!!! You know another thing that they don't have in Norfolk is pickled onion vineger in the chip shops, they look at you as if your barking if you ask for it!!! strange people me thinks! If anyone knows of a pie and mash shop in Norfolk then offers welcome!
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5/24/2005 |
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Help - Does anyone know if there is a pie & mash in the centre of london? I work in Holborn and I need one to get through my lunch hour! |
5/27/2005 |
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Pie & Mash - Have you any pictures or video of Pie & Mash? |
6/2/2005 |
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Pie & Mash - I can relate to all those who have moved away from London. I have moved as far away as one is capable of doing and still be on land--I'm in California, USA. *S* I lived in England when I was a little girl and visited often when I lived overseas, and came to love the dish, but being a child of an American Air Force Officer father and a British mom, I was quickly taken away from one of my favourite dishes. I craved this dish when I was pregnant and begged (!!!!!!) my mom to bring it back to me in the states. But to no avail, couldn't do it. Sooo, if anyone can give me a recipe that will come close to what I loved (and haven't had in 20 years), it would be greatly appreciated. NERaphael@adelphia.net |
6/6/2005 |
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Pie n Mash in Bognor Regis - Yippee, there is one in Bognor Regis. Opened at Christmas for all you that live nearby. It is down the Queensway off the high street. The food is great. |
6/6/2005 |
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Help - Does anyone know if there is a pie & mash in the centre of london? I work in Holborn and I need one to get through my lunch hour! |
6/7/2005 |
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Help - Does anyone know if there is a pie & mash in the centre of london? I work in Holborn and I need one to get through my lunch hour! |
6/7/2005 |
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Pie n Mash - I moved from London to cambridge & go to haverhill for my monthly fix of pie mash if not in London..Used to live in East Ham but been ages since been there but always found the one on the high street to be the best by far..wish I could remember the name but was only young when I got hooked.
Browns is the shop in Haverhill..not the best but its true pie mash as we know it so im not complaining living not too far away...My parents have been trying to find the true recipe for years but no one would ever let on the secret to the pies or liquor. |
6/14/2005 |
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Recipe for Green liquor - Hi there
Here's one I found. I apologise to any purists who may think that this is not what you would get in a shop, its nice though!
Parsley Liquor
This is a recipe for the famous green gravy that is served with the East End speciality of 'Pie, Mash and Liquor'.
Ingredients
Serves: 4
25 Gram Butter (1 oz)
25 Gram Plain flour (1 oz)
300 ml Water (10 fl oz)
4 Tablespoon Chopped fresh parsley
Salt and freshly ground pepper
1 Teaspoon Malt vinegar, optional
Method
Melt the butter in a saucepan. Add the flour and cook for 1 minute.
Gradually add the water or stock. Bring to the boil, stirring continuously. Add the parsley and seasoning and vinegar if using.
Serve with a minced beef pie and mashed potatoes.
You can use chicken stock in place of the water
Cheers
Kiwilad
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6/16/2005 |
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A slight fix for my craving! - I have just had a fix of my craving of pie and mash by taking some of tonights raw lean mince (naughty me) and dry frying and boiling a couple of potatoes and mashing, straight on the plate with loads of sarsons malt and salt....Thanks for the recipe for the liquor, will give it a try, it's just too dry without it. Anyone got any good recipes for that gorgeous pastry that the pies are made out of? |
6/23/2005 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
6/24/2005 |
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how do u make the pie - i moved to great yarmouth in norfolk and have to
go back to london to get the best my mum makes it but we cant get the pies right we wont so help
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7/5/2005 |
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hey i live near grea yarmouth - ne1 know the nearest pie n mash shop or a restaurant that serves it |
7/6/2005 |
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HOW DO U MAKE THE PIE - I MOVED TO GREAT YARMOUTH 2 YEARS A GO AND LOVE PIE AND MASH WE MAKE IT BUT CANT GET THE PIES RIGHT CAN SOME 1 HELP WHER IS THERE 1 |
7/6/2005 |
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best pie and mash in london - Manzies is without doubt the best pie and mash in london. It's probably the oldest n all!! There's one in Peckham and another one in Tower Bridge Road in Bermondsey!! Check em out if you are eva in da hood!!! All the rest are following in Manzies footsteps!! |
7/11/2005 |
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A slight fix for my craving! - I have just had a fix of my craving of pie and mash by taking some of tonights raw lean mince (naughty me) and dry frying and boiling a couple of potatoes and mashing, straight on the plate with loads of sarsons malt and salt....Thanks for the recipe for the liquor, will give it a try, it's just too dry without it. Anyone got any good recipes for that gorgeous pastry that the pies are made out of? |
7/13/2005 |
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pies - as far as i know the pies r made with minced lamb not beef..the pie trays r stood in water so the top of the pie cooks and the rest of the pie basicaly steams....cook mince with salt and plenty of black pepper.. |
7/13/2005 |
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FAO Help - Have you tried Kelly's Pie and Mash in Bethnal Green?? If not try to get there in your lunch break! Now, very important, coming from the tube station you DO NOT want to go in the 1st Kelly's (there are 2) as that one is rubbish, keep walking down Bethnal Green Road until you get to the 2nd Kelly's...it is simply the best in my humble opinion! Also there is Goddards at Cutty Sark which is nice too. |
7/22/2005 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
7/23/2005 |
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A slight fix for my craving! - I have just had a fix of my craving of pie and mash by taking some of tonights raw lean mince (naughty me) and dry frying and boiling a couple of potatoes and mashing, straight on the plate with loads of sarsons malt and salt....Thanks for the recipe for the liquor, will give it a try, it's just too dry without it. Anyone got any good recipes for that gorgeous pastry that the pies are made out of? |
7/27/2005 |
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pie and mash - the best pie and mash in london is blatantly manzies in tower hill! u will not beat that-i think the recipe 4 liquor is parsley sauce because my nan used 2 make me it if i had a craving! |
7/29/2005 |
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the best pie and mash in london - the best pie and mash not just in london but the whole world is obviously manzies in tower hill without a doubt! |
7/29/2005 |
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pie mash in holborn - not quite holborn exmouth market behind finsbury town hall.
clarkes its called
cooks in hoxton have a delivery service as well |
8/10/2005 |
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pie mash in australia - i know there are pie mash shops in aussie does anyone know where? |
8/10/2005 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
8/11/2005 |
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Best in London - Got to be Goddard's in Greenwich - yum yum. |
8/17/2005 |
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A slight fix for my craving! - I have just had a fix of my craving of pie and mash by taking some of tonights raw lean mince (naughty me) and dry frying and boiling a couple of potatoes and mashing, straight on the plate with loads of sarsons malt and salt....Thanks for the recipe for the liquor, will give it a try, it's just too dry without it. Anyone got any good recipes for that gorgeous pastry that the pies are made out of? |
8/21/2005 |
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- Best pie and mash in london is Kelly's in Bethnal Green! There are two down there but the one nearer the underground station is by far the best in London always has been. I have lived on it since I was a boy! |
8/24/2005 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
9/5/2005 |
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kentish town - I grew up eating pie n mash in Harringtons on the wandsworth rd but go to the 1 in kentish town...it is perfection...(bottom of kentish town rd,take right filter and second left.park up and its just round the corner)....enjoy!! |
9/8/2005 |
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Pies Nr 2 The Real Thing - Tesco Value Stk n Kidney Pies Cook them in the Microwave. Comes out just like P & Mash Quality all u need now is mash n Liquor. Yummy yum |
9/16/2005 |
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Pie & Mash - Anyone suggest the nearest shop to Oxford? |
9/24/2005 |
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pie and mash cravings - I have a pal living in Byran bay
N S W Australia ,who to my knowledge has been craving pie& mash for at least 25 years .Can anyone tell me the the nearest (if any ) shops/cafes in the area that sell it
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9/26/2005 |
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pie mash and liquor - i have moved to corby northants from east end of london im missing home badly but most of all im missing me pie mash is there anywhere in northants that does this i have bought cook's pie mash from farmfoods its rank GGGGRRR if ya a proper cockney and eat the real macoy frozen stuff just aint got it. Help in need of good home food
joanne |
10/4/2005 |
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Croydon - There is a really good pie and mash shop in Croydon - hunt it down - you won't be disappointed... |
10/4/2005 |
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Pies - I believe the pies where made without any fat, just flour and water.
Give it a try. |
10/6/2005 |
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pie in pie mash and liqour recipe - Made with hot water pastry. look under Dundee pies. |
10/6/2005 |
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i miss it.. :o( - I moved to pensacola florida 3yrs ago, I'm a eastend girl. I'm missing my pie and mash so much. I'm hoping I can cook mine as nice as romford :O) wish me luck :O) PS anyway got the pie recipe? |
10/9/2005 |
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Delivered to your door - I moved to Norfolk from east london and so miss my pie & mash, but I just found a company that delivers to your door!
www.eelhouse.co.uk
Just about to give them a try!
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10/10/2005 |
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i miss it.. :o( - I moved to pensacola florida 3yrs ago, I'm a eastend girl. I'm missing my pie and mash so much. I'm hoping I can cook mine as nice as romford :O) wish me luck :O) PS anyway got the pie recipe? |
10/10/2005 |
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pie mash online - |
10/12/2005 |
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pie & mash in south london - walworth , se17 westmorland road, pies without the stupid last longer gravey inside just quality |
10/12/2005 |
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Pie mash online - We moved to Norfolk from Bermondsey 4+ years ago. All that time without pie mash. Found a new online service, ordered and had it delivered today.FANTASTIC!!!!!
Great service, great pie mash. Try it
www.the eelhouse.co.uk
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10/12/2005 |
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Romford Pie & Mash - Where is this P & M Shop in Romford. I'm from Romford but left about 10 yrs ago. I'd be interested to go there if I come back to UK? We don't get P & M Shops here in Israel.
Thks
Lorraine
jackyc@bezeqint.net |
10/14/2005 |
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green liquor - The best replacment for the above is Sainsburys
packet parsley sauce.I would like to know how to make the pies ?
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10/19/2005 |
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Manzies pie& mash - I bought some steak pies from Iceland shop, used MASH, comes in containers, & Bisto,s parsley sauce mix,
I used to live in Whites grounds, Bermondsey way back, also in Tooting, unfortunately they are only open 10a.m. - 2p.m. now.
I have a book of address of the shops, Clacton I found the best since.
I now live in Milton Keynes, we do not have any here either.
From Ann used to be SLADE ( surname)
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10/27/2005 |
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A slight fix for my craving! - I have just had a fix of my craving of pie and mash by taking some of tonights raw lean mince (naughty me) and dry frying and boiling a couple of potatoes and mashing, straight on the plate with loads of sarsons malt and salt....Thanks for the recipe for the liquor, will give it a try, it's just too dry without it. Anyone got any good recipes for that gorgeous pastry that the pies are made out of? |
10/27/2005 |
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pie and mash - best in London in the Cut near
Blackfriars Bridge also excellent on
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10/28/2005 |
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LIQUOR - When making the liquor i use fish stock or chicken stock or sometime's a bit of both but fish stock i find make's it more like the real thing, Apparently they use the stock from the eel's to make it?
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11/19/2005 |
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11/19/2005 |
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A Cooke - Goldhawk Road W11 - Can vouch that A Cooke Pie & Mash in Goldhawk Road is very good. Went there for lunch today and had Single Pie, Mash and Liquor for £2-50 with Tea at 60p. Food was delicious and piping hot, perfect for a cold day like today. Maybe next time I'll try the eels ! |
11/21/2005 |
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pastry - suet pastry is traditionally used |
11/22/2005 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
12/14/2005 |
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pie and mash in bognor - does anyone know name and address of pie and mash shop in bognor and opening times and days, thankyou |
12/29/2005 |
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pie and mash - kings lynn i have not tried it but its there also try farm foods it frozen but very chaep and not too bad |
12/31/2005 |
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pie and mash - Hi we have just established a pie and mash from hom service in cambrideshire near huntingdon. We deliver and have people collect, we will be opening a shop in 6mths time just waiting on some building works please call 07916 323969 for further info. Thanks Vikki Bow Bells Pie and Mash shop |
1/10/2006 |
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the key - The liquor that goes with this incredible dish consists of water,flour & butter(makes the roux)loads of chopped parsley and salt. I prefer to make it with chicken stock add a little vineger to make a little more sour. The color should be a vibrant speckled green but have a clear kinda of thickened look.
email me
www.robertporter@hotmail.co.uk
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1/17/2006 |
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berlin wants to try the pie's - I'm doing a trad east end night in Berlin. wanna make the pies myself. Anyone know the recipe?
I'm and east ender myself living in Berlin
please contact haigroad@hotmail.com |
1/30/2006 |
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- The best pie'n'mash in london has got to be Robins!!! they have 3 shops, 1 in East Ham, 1 in Ilford and one in Basildon in Essex, they did have one in Romford but it shut for some reason.
The best I know of outside london is the one in Walton on the naze out in essex it is liscenced so you can have a beer with your pie'n'mash.... Fooking luvly!!!! |
2/5/2006 |
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lovely pie and mashhhhhhhh -
just had some in westmorland road, walworth se17.
and a fruit pie with cream then poped down to baldwins and had a large sarsaparilla, and bought a bottle to bring home. and had a wonder down the lane alround good day.
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2/11/2006 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
2/14/2006 |
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Pie Mash & Liquor - We have a pie and mash shop in Newquay Cornwall,we buy the pie's from Goddards of Greenwich frozen shipped down to us and we cook them on site, so when we require them, we cook them from frozen so you know they are alway's fresh and very good quality, so when you are on holiday come and try them 15 EAST ST NEWQUAY TELEPHONE 01637 870666 |
2/23/2006 |
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pie mash and liquor - the old way of making liquor is to use the the stock from boiling eels. or any fish bones will do.then parsley in it.which gives it the green colour. but how you thicken it a bit i dont know .i come from london and love pie and mash and liqour but the liqour is a secret same as the pies. the pies have no gravy in them.but the pastry is really thin.this is why not many oie and mash shops they all keep it a secret. |
2/28/2006 |
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pie and mash - It's about to burst out in sunny Saffron Walden |
3/1/2006 |
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pie and mash - i now live in costa blanca spain and miss pie and mash more than any other food.(there is one costa de sol) and if im lucky some one will bring me some from Romford opp old brewery, Morrisons sell frozen one not the same but ok to stop craving.
The liquer is made from stewed eels and that is how it thickens none of this parsley sauce rubbish in packets, the pies are as someone suggested made dry mince and cooked in tin with bottom in tray with a bit of water so steamed with baked top thats all im saying if i could get eels would open shop here in spain. best pie and mash is in Romford, Vange and the best one Tooting Broadway in my opinion , well enjoy,,,, |
3/7/2006 |
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pie n mash in romford - the shop that i know of is opposite the old brewery just along from wollies, unless its moved. i am from hornchurch (just down the road). i am living in glasgow and miss pie n mash. locally its fish suppers only.
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3/15/2006 |
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A Tip!!!!! - Yes , pies were made from eels and liquor based on eel stock, the secret is.................................
ok? so just remember that, you will be amazed at how authentic your pies will taste.
Good luck
CJ |
3/16/2006 |
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To all you Cockneys out there - I run a pub in Milton Keynes called the Manor. I am facsinated by your Cockney culture and want to have a cockney theme at our pubs annual St. Georges Night party (Friday 21st April).
Lets get down to business, who ever can bring me a pub load of Pie, Mash and liquor, gets to drink for free all night in my pub.
Cheers
The guvnor.
PS. Has anyone got Chas N Daves Number. |
3/16/2006 |
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endorsment - I can vouch for the Leytonstone High road and Walworth shops, both great. If you are in love with pies in general, ry out limetreepantry.co.uk
Really greta pies |
3/16/2006 |
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pie & mash - we went to Moraira on the costa blanca last year
and found that the english admiral benbow restaurant had pie mash & liquor on the menu fridays,as there are a lot of English residents in the area,that come to the local market on saturday.
Now for my recipe for liquor, yes i believe that they do use the stock from the eels but we sometimes have to improvise.
I Put approx 2 desert spoons of flour 1 desert spoon of margarine 3/4 pint milk good pinch of salt and pepper into a saucepan stir with a wisk until you get a nice creamy white sauce,add plenty of chopped parsley, and a couple of spoons of vinegar to taste,then you get a bottle of green food colouring you only need a few drops to get the colour, while you have been stirring the sauce you will notice that it is starting to get thicker, gradually add some water from the potato,s a little at a time so that you get the right consistency you can add any more pepper and vinegar to taste.I now live in North Yorkshire whwer they look at you as if you are mad if you mention pie mash & liquor.i make this at least twice a month it is still my favourite meal hope this has helped. |
3/19/2006 |
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Pie & mash shop in Hastings - There is a fab pie and mash shop in Hastings on the sea front. It is the best one I have ever been to with the best liquor ever. There is also one in Gillingham High Street KENT its near Canterbury Street the Somerfields end. Its nice pie and mash with liquor but not as good as the one in Hastings. |
3/19/2006 |
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Pie & mash shop in Bexleheath, Kent - There's a pie & mash shop in the High Street, Bexleyheath, Kent |
3/21/2006 |
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me i eat pie n mash in HOLLAND - Reason being after moving here like 14 years ago you have to move some to get the good old food you was used too, well i cracked it i now make my own and also get orders form others here its brilliant it tastes the same and i love the stuff after all i was bought up in london , cant live without itthe children love it, other english here want it 1 or more times a week on there week menu it great as is great bristish food!!! long live the good old tradionale pie , mash , and liquor yummieeeeeeee |
3/24/2006 |
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Pie and mash in central london - The two best pie 'n mash shops that I have found in central London - Borough Market opposite London Bridge mainline station and the other one is the south side of Tower Bridge. |
3/30/2006 |
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RECIPE - Dry cook mince lamb or beef or 50/50 lamb/beef add to hotwater shoo pastry bottoms add pie top and brush top with milk.
mash potatoe, do not cream leave firm and slightly lumpy. use potatoe water and fish stock cube small amount of gelatine and cornflour thicken to taste, strain, add chopped parsley non-brewed vinegar white pepper.
serve on table with non-brewed vinegar with pickling spices in it, salt and WHITE pepper.
Eat with spoon and fork. tea or sasparella to drink. |
4/1/2006 |
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pie and mash - i do not feel any butter or marge should be used int he sauce whatsoever.you make the sauce either from the potato water and add flour and lotsof very finely chopped curly parsley,if you are lucky enough to get a live eel and they are very rare these days,and costly -pound for pound they are more expensive then fillet steak,then the stock these produce is very good flavoured stock.
the pie base is very crunchy and it will contain lard so i do feel its a suet pastry but not as much lard say as a suet pudding, there would be no need for a water bath, as the pies are made in tin pie plates with a raw mixture of minced beef and salt and pepper nothing else-put straight in the tin -not even cooked before,so the mixture of suet pastry and the lubrication of the beef mixture keeps the base of the pie just steamed and the top dries out,do not put a vent in the pie as you want to keep every thing tight and steamed.the potatos are just ordinary boiling ones-do not add butter or anything else.if you are cooking eels remember to cook so that the eel is tender and sweet,serve the lot in shallow soup bowls with lots of vinegar and saxa salt and pepper-short crust pastry bottoms do not work,as puff-i will post my exact recipe for the pie soon-gelatin is also not used in the sauce
although every ones taste is and recipes are differant and is great to see-but the principles behind cockney cooking is that the recipes go back a long way,it was simple food and a staple - older people from around the south of london,kent and bromley was not and some still do not enjoy the fusion food of today,although much is said of eastenders loving more spicy food and exotics because of the asian settlements,the cockneys always loved gelationous dishes such as pigs trotters and brawn but thats another subject!! |
4/1/2006 |
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i made a mistake!!! - it was meant to read pie base is soggy and top is crunchy-maybe a good read for evryone is a book by the authur-clunn he has written a book-pie and mash shops |
4/1/2006 |
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my son wants to try pie & mash - ive got to take my wife & friend to wembley mid week .and my son wants to try pie& mash .whats the nearest and best place to go ?? |
4/9/2006 |
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nearest place to wembley - i do not think there is any pie and mash shops in wembley-thereis no call for them,portobello road market has one do not know how good it is , its a recently opened one |
4/14/2006 |
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Liquor recipe - blind tasted on my cockney dad - 1 tub jellied eels (200g) Supermarket
1 splash milk
1 handfull chopped fresh curley leaved parsley
3/4 pint water
Salt and pepper
1 teaspoon vinegar (vinnies non brewed condiment is best)
teaspoon cornflour
Method:-
Melt jellied eels and jelly with water and milk in saucepan with plenty of salt and pepper and vinegar.
Cover and simmer gently for 30mins to really get eel flavour into the stock.
When done, strain / sieve liquid into saucepan and add parsley - bring back to the boil.
Mix cornflour with cold water and add to saucepan stirring constantly.
Check and adjust seasoning to taste.
Alternate method is to use salt water remaining from mashed potato water. There you go...
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4/17/2006 |
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Pie and Mash in Dunstable - I like the rest of you am a pie and mash fan. I agree that whites in Walton is the best pie and mash outside of London. I have been trying to convince my wife that a pie and mash shop in Dunstable would be a good business. Anyone out there from the Luton or Dunstable area agree? |
4/22/2006 |
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me i eat pie n mash in HOLLAND - Reason being after moving here like 14 years ago you have to move some to get the good old food you was used too, well i cracked it i now make my own and also get orders form others here its brilliant it tastes the same and i love the stuff after all i was bought up in london , cant live without itthe children love it, other english here want it 1 or more times a week on there week menu it great as is great bristish food!!! long live the good old tradionale pie , mash , and liquor yummieeeeeeee |
4/25/2006 |
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- i love pie and mash having been born and brought up in the east end i like many of you also miss my pie and mash fix and many of the old style recipes
my question is is there anyone out there who knows the recipe for the thick brown gravy that was used to pour over liver and bacon i would be so grateful if you do thanks |
5/16/2006 |
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Pie & mash - The pie is made from suet pastry..It is baked in a tray full of water leaving the tops above to brown and the bottoms to become a pudding..the pie is made up from minced mutton 15% and the rest minced lean beef.salt and lots of pepper...to taste..the sauce is made from the ell stock...you can sub with a can of tuna.milk and flour to thicken and lots of fresh parsley chopped up fine. I also use some of the stock from the potatoes after boiling....(what you have to remember pie & mash was made on the cheep) don't over do it and add the best of everything it just won't taste the same...oh and im also a cockney out of the country for 40 years..good luck and good cooking... magpie@mycybernet.net |
5/19/2006 |
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pie & mash delivered nationwide - I live in NorthWales and ordered pie mash & liquor with some jellied eels from www.eelhouse.co.uk I must say being a pie and mash freak this in one of the best pie&mash I have ever tasted and I have been to most pie&mash shops in and around London. The company deliver nation wide. They also have a guest book on their website and you can see that they have delivered pie&mash all over the country.
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5/26/2006 |
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Goddards, Greenwich - I have just watched a 20 minute programme on the famous pie shop, and it showed them making the pies, just thought I would tell you that they use 'water pastry'.............Would appreciate any authentic pie, mash and liquor receipes, thanks.
martinmerlin3@hotmail.com |
6/4/2006 |
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We need Pie and Mash in Texas - My husband in from East London and he is feeling very home sick. I would love to make Pie and Mash for him but I need some help. I need a detailed recipe!!! I've emailed a Pie Shoppe in London to see if they could ship some to us overnight. I haven't hear back. Please help!!!
Carissa.Limber@aig.com |
6/7/2006 |
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glasgow - moved 2 glasgow a few yrs ago and pure miss pie n mash!!! tryd that syt www.ellhouse.co.uk but its not wrkin??? any 1 no if there is 1 in glasgow..enjoy a fish supper but nuffin beats pie n mash!!
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6/12/2006 |
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Pieminister in Stokes Croft Bristol - Try it! |
6/15/2006 |
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pie and mash - i think there is a pie nd mash shop in hunstanton |
6/24/2006 |
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Pie and Mash - There is a pie and mash shop in Haverhill, Suffolk.
My mum makes the best pie and mash but is finding the eels hard to come by. They used to do them on Romford Market but no one now has the guts to kill them. Does anyone where to get them? |
6/28/2006 |
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recipe for pie & mash - Every individual pie & mash shop has there own recipe, but the basics are the same, this is my version.
The pie crust:- the soft underneath crust of the pie is made using a simple "water pastry" recipe which you can find on the net, the top pie crust can be made or bought using a thin layer of puff pastry (much nicer) which is glazed with a egg & water mixed, or you could use the water pastry for the top crust as well.
The mince:- any good quality mince with a 10 to 15 % fat content should be used and ground to a fine or medium texture then cooked for 5 or 10 minutes.
Added to this is a little bovril or gravy browning to keep its colour. or fresh beef stock that you see in supermarkets can be used instead.
The green liquor:- The water from the boiling of the potatoes (remove the scum that floats on top first) is used with loads of fresh parsley that is liquidized, you can add liquidized thawed frozen peas to bulk it out and to give it that deep green colour, then add finely chopped parsley leafs at the end with arrowroot to give it that slightly shiney glazed look, season to taste and add little white vinagar.
The potatoe:- Maris piper or any good quality mashing spud can be used, to give it that smooth texture, just pass it through a potatoe ricer, no butter or milk needed. |
6/28/2006 |
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pie n mash in norfolk - theres one in great yarmouth... nice, but it will neva av the right atmosphere as in london...
its at the other endof the market... near the church xx |
7/4/2006 |
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pie mash - the best pie and mash in the world is from harrintons in selkirk road tooting broadway london. moved to crawley in 1999 wheres the pie mash shop then ? harrintons needs to open a pie mash shop in crawley west sussex cause most of us are from london and everyone misses it.linda bawn |
7/10/2006 |
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pie & mash in clacton - there`s a new pie and mash shop in clacton its in pallister road called jd`s its terrrrrific a good rival to whites of walton i don`t have to travel 7 miles to walton now best thing to happen to clacton for years. |
7/17/2006 |
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Calories for pie mash & liquer? - I am a desperate dieter, but have to have my pie n mash fix. It would help if I knew the calories so I could budget food intake around pie and mash so I wont feel deprived. |
7/18/2006 |
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COOKES AT THE BROADWAY MARKET E9 - ITS THE BEST AND STILL HAS SAWDUST ON THE FLOOR! |
8/1/2006 |
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A. Cooke's Pie,mash,Eels&Liquer - This is on Goldhawk Road, Shepherd's Bush by the market. And they do bostin pie and mash, eat in or take away. Quite cheap at £2 and 50 and very popular on Match days when QPR are at home. Nice old building with big awning on the front. |
8/8/2006 |
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PIE & MASH, WELL STREET - GODDARDS WERE THERE IN WELL STREET, HACKNEY UNTIL ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO. ANYONE KNOW IF THEY STILL ARE. IT WAS ALWAYS GOOD THERE. I AGREE THAT ONE OF THE BEST IS THE LEYTONSTONE HIGH ROAD ONE. SURPRISED IT'S STILL THERE. I USED TO LIVE NOT FAR AWAY IN LEYTON. EVERY FRIDAY WAS PIE SHOP NIGHT....LOVE IT |
8/9/2006 |
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pie& mash shops, - i agree that manze's in walthamstow,is one of the best, i was born in walthamstow, but now live in Harwich, if any one opened up a pie & mash shop here they would do well, providing they do it right, there are so many people getting out of London now, a lot of them are coming here & would welcome a good old eastend eel pie & mash shop. |
8/10/2006 |
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Pie & Mash (outside London) - The best Pie & Mash shop outside London has to be The one on Debden Broadway. Debden which is on the Central line near loughton is owned by a family named Kelly's from bethnal green and its as good as Kelly's at Roman Road market. Well worth trying. I live in spain now but always pop back at least once a year and visit debden for my Pie & Mash as often as possible |
8/11/2006 |
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- I have been to the NEW Pie & Mash that has opened in Pallister Road, Clacton IT IS GREAT. |
8/12/2006 |
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pie & mash recipe - i search the recipe of pie and mash.
can you help?
björn from germany |
8/15/2006 |
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recipe for pie & mash - Every individual pie & mash shop has there own recipe, but the basics are the same, this is my version.
The pie crust:- the soft underneath crust of the pie is made using a simple "water pastry" recipe which you can find on the net, the top pie crust can be made or bought using a thin layer of puff pastry (much nicer) which is glazed with a egg & water mixed, or you could use the water pastry for the top crust as well.
The mince:- any good quality mince with a 10 to 15 % fat content should be used and ground to a fine or medium texture then cooked for 5 or 10 minutes.
Added to this is a little bovril or gravy browning to keep its colour. or fresh beef stock that you see in supermarkets can be used instead.
The green liquor:- The water from the boiling of the potatoes (remove the scum that floats on top first) is used with loads of fresh parsley that is liquidized, you can add liquidized thawed frozen peas to bulk it out and to give it that deep green colour, then add finely chopped parsley leafs at the end with arrowroot to give it that slightly shiney glazed look, season to taste and add little white vinagar.
The potatoe:- Maris piper or any good quality mashing spud can be used, to give it that smooth texture, just pass it through a potatoe ricer, no butter or milk needed. |
8/16/2006 |
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pie & mash in dunstable - GREAT IDEA! my man's been toying with idea also, why not go into partnership, anyway if not i know loadsa people tha will be regular customers (especially him indoors....good luck |
8/17/2006 |
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Pie & Mash - Hi
Just having a look for a good Pie N Mash shop, saw Manzes quoted here a few times, then found their web site... http://www.manze.co.uk/aboutOurFood.html
To go along with the Pie & mash stuff, do you know any pub in London that does Ye Olde Cokney knees ups? you know, the Old Bull N bush sort of stuff?
Cheers
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8/21/2006 |
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Pie Mash and Eels in Tooting - London - There is a great pie,mash,licker and eel shop in Tooting, SW17. Its located at 3 Selkirk Road, just a 100 yards or so from Tooting Broadway.
My family have eaten pie and mash for years and in a number of different establishments but Harrigtons of Tooting takes some beating. Nice ambience, slightly worn looking, but great service and food, very reasonably priced too.
Give it a try if you're that way - better still make a trip there and taste for yourself!
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8/23/2006 |
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Pie 'n mash - Dog food with snot sauce. |
9/1/2006 |
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Manzes. The one and only. - Manzes, Walthamstow High St. The one and only. practically as 'original' as the day it was built, complete with sawdust on the floor. You're not going to find better 'pie and mash' anywhere. Saturday is the busiest, go on a weekday. 'Takeaway'service available as well. The mash used to be wrapped in paper if you took it home. Making my mouth water. |
9/9/2006 |
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- Try 'Cooks Pie and Mash'. A lot of the smaller shops might stock it in their freezer section. Its the closest you'll find to the real thing. |
9/9/2006 |
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Pie&Mash - Where can I find a pie & mash shop in Brighton,Hove,Worthing area. |
9/10/2006 |
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Proper Pie & Mash Recipe from someone who knows! - Here is the real authentic recipe from the best pie & mash shops like `Cookes` Kellys``Robins`.
The Pie:- Bottom crust on a pie is made from following a suet pastry recipe,(same recipe for a suet pudding but rolled thin).
The top crust is puff pastry (this is best), but a suet pastry can also be used.
The filling of the pie is medium fine aberdeen angus mincemeat cooked with water and a little gravy browning, season to taste (cook this before adding to pie).
If your making this pie at home, use a small old fashioned enamel pie dish (white with blue trim).
Cook at 200 or gas mark 5 for 20 to 25 minutes near the top of the oven.
The Liquor:- Arrowroot powder(to thicken),
Water from the cooked spuds,
Mashed marrow fat peas,
white pepper & salt,
White vinagar,(sarsons or non-brewed condiment from companies called `Drywhite` or `Krunchiefoods`,
fresh parsley.
The Potato:- `Maris Piper` variety put through a potatoe ricer to get rid of the lumps, (do not add butter or milk).
Serve with non-brewed vinagar and white pepper & salt as a table condiment.
Jellie eels: Can be bought from www.thefishsociety.co.uk or get in touch with `Lough Neagh Fisheries` in Norhtern Ireland, failing that there are dealers from `Billings Gate` fish market who can post worldwide.
The orange drink served from the dispenser in the pie & mash shops is called `SunQuick` from a company called `Co-Ro Foods` based in Denmark, this can be bought from Tesco`s at under two pounds a bottle, but it make 8 litres of drink that is much better than Kia-Ora.
Good luck
Keith (email:- kdb58biz@aol.com) |
9/14/2006 |
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pie mash in leyton - is there a pie mash shop near Leyton Orient football ground? |
9/25/2006 |
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jarvis - hi their ..their are two pie n mash shops in claton and are both good . i have one address 24 rosemary road claton onsea essex co151nz the auth is round the corner if you ask someome will tell allso one at walton on naze not far from the pier injoy |
9/27/2006 |
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I have pictures - I have pictures of pie and mash, i have just taken pictures for my social documentary prodject for college. |
10/3/2006 |
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pie and mash - we go to a pie and mash shop in tooting sw london, its lovely i have pie mash and eels, my kids like pie,mash, and liquor, iv had eels with my pie and mash for years, yet everytime i eat them in front of the kids, they say "eer yuk".I thought they would have been used to them by now. There is also a great pie and mash shop in Hastings, right opposit the seafront i think its called [oyster]. |
10/3/2006 |
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Newquay Cornwall - Went to a pie n mash shop in Newquay.....ruff as old boots..come on..if yer gonna open a pie n mash shop...get it right!!!!!.....long live pie n mash |
10/4/2006 |
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- DOUBLE PIE MASH N LIQUOR..KENTISH TOWN..CANT BEAT IT...NUFF SAID |
10/4/2006 |
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Where can I find Pie & Mash in Brighton/Worthing? - Nothing in Worthing for sure. Don't know about Brighton but havn't seen one. Nearest I know of is Bognor Regis & Sutton Surrey. |
10/5/2006 |
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best in town - The best pie mash shop by far is robins. It is in East Ham High street e6. I have been to loads and i am the lover of pie and mash.You cannot get a better shop then this one even the celebs go there!!.Would love to be able to make the liquor though. When in there the other day the worker told my son that he will get big and strong eating all the spinach that is in the liquor. Is there spinach or parsley in the liquor?. Does anyone know?. |
10/12/2006 |
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pie&mash - Where in Bognor Regis is the PIE&MASH shop. |
10/14/2006 |
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Pie and Mash In Florida - We have friends that live in Florida and miss Pie and Mash.
I have looked at some of the recipes on here and will take out with me, to try them.
Let you know how I get on and there verdict |
10/27/2006 |
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Leyton/Leytonstone - Does anyone have a name or phone number for either of the shops mentioned in both Leyton High Road and Leytonstone High Road, please. I would like to know their opening times (for today if possible, but otherwise anytime). |
11/1/2006 |
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WALWORTH RD S.E.17 ARMENTS PIE AND MASH - There is a lovely pie and mash shop in walworth(se17) its called arments you should try it out some time.and does anyone know of a pie and mash shop in croydon/purley area? |
11/8/2006 |
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Pie and mash pastry - The pastry is called hot water crust and is made with lard and boiling water. I think it's the same sort of pastry as they use to make pork pies, but it comes out different because of the way it's cooked. |
11/11/2006 |
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East End Pie and Mash The Best - Cookes Pie & Mash shop in Broadway Market and Manzies down Walthamstow market are the best Pie and Mash shop in East London. The shop in Romford SUCKS |
11/13/2006 |
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hemel hempstead pie and mash - there is a pie and mash in hemel or there was a few years back when i visited,i think they imported it in from a eel and pie shop from the east end somewhere.i know hemel is a london overspill town and many poeple moved up there from hackney,west ham,stratford and bethnal green areas of the east end as well as north london,so it would be very poplar up there |
11/14/2006 |
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manzes, - on a visit to walthamstow recently i popped into manzes in the high street, it was really good, not only was the pie & mash exellent, but they did fruit pies as well,plum & rhubarb, i don't think any of the others do this. |
11/27/2006 |
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the BEST Pie & Mash - PIEMINISTER in bristol is the best flippin pie and mash in the world... lovely pies - laods of different pies, excellent mash, lovely gravy and a nic ebuch of people aswell.. long live pieminister!!!! |
11/29/2006 |
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Lovely Jubbly - I have just returned from Cooke's in Hoxton Market although the price has gone up drastically over the years its still the best grub around.
Anyone interested here is the website to buy it online, Ive been told you cant tell the difference in taste, Enjoy!
http://www.eelhouse.co.uk/
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11/29/2006 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
11/29/2006 |
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Pie, Mash, & Liquor Recipe like "Robins" - The pie is made using normal or rough puff pastry,
The mince used is good quality "Aberdeen Angus" beef mixed with a little oxo or bovril and water.
The Liquor is made using, potato water, milk, white pepper, black pepper, salt, white vinegar,
spinach, parsley, geletine, water.
If there are any questions, please email me (keith)at: kdb58biz@aol.com |
12/6/2006 |
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Great Yarmouth Pie & Mash - I'm Dutch and also a pie & mash lover (yes, they do exist elsewhere) and I was on a holiday in Great Yarmouth this summer. At the market place is a shop called 'Ye Olde Pie & Mash Shop'. Or something like that. I had a great pie, mash and liquor there. Just so you know... |
12/6/2006 |
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The new pie and mash in basildon - This is good stuff.This shop is also linked with romford pie shop, stacey's pie shop,dagnam pie shop.i remember eating it over 50 years ago and still think they are the best around by far. cheers |
12/7/2006 |
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NO PIE AND MASH ON A SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!! - WE ARE IN DAGENHAM ESSEX AND WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF THERE IS ONE NEAR US THATS OPEN ON A SUNDAY........PLEEEEASE |
12/10/2006 |
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clacton - the new pie shop in clacton called jd`s are the same people from brook pie&mash in dagenham |
12/11/2006 |
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west ham/upton park pie and mash - when i lived in stepney,used to watch west ham and allways had pie and mash over there.cant remember the names of the pie and mash shops but there was one in queens market,one in green street opposite upton park station and another in the barking road.there was one in west ham lane as well and also another near plaistow station near the queen vic pub.i now live in hertfordshire and if i go back home allways visit a pie and mash in bethnal green road or the roman road.are the pie and mash still open over west ham or have they closed |
12/12/2006 |
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recipe for pie & mash - Every individual pie & mash shop has there own recipe, but the basics are the same, this is my version.
The pie crust:- the soft underneath crust of the pie is made using a simple "water pastry" recipe which you can find on the net, the top pie crust can be made or bought using a thin layer of puff pastry (much nicer) which is glazed with a egg & water mixed, or you could use the water pastry for the top crust as well.
The mince:- any good quality mince with a 10 to 15 % fat content should be used and ground to a fine or medium texture then cooked for 5 or 10 minutes.
Added to this is a little bovril or gravy browning to keep its colour. or fresh beef stock that you see in supermarkets can be used instead.
The green liquor:- The water from the boiling of the potatoes (remove the scum that floats on top first) is used with loads of fresh parsley that is liquidized, you can add liquidized thawed frozen peas to bulk it out and to give it that deep green colour, then add finely chopped parsley leafs at the end with arrowroot to give it that slightly shiney glazed look, season to taste and add little white vinagar.
The potatoe:- Maris piper or any good quality mashing spud can be used, to give it that smooth texture, just pass it through a potatoe ricer, no butter or milk needed. |
12/18/2006 |
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Great Yarmouth Pie & Mash - I'm Dutch and also a pie & mash lover (yes, they do exist elsewhere) and I was on a holiday in Great Yarmouth this summer. At the market place is a shop called 'Ye Olde Pie & Mash Shop'. Or something like that. I had a great pie, mash and liquor there. Just so you know... |
12/19/2006 |
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Manzes pie & mash - i've read all the versions of the best pie & mash shop i've also visited most of the ones in london. i'm now living in Dovercourt Essex, & has visted the one in Walton, the new one in Clacton, but the best for me is the Manzes in Walthamstow, High street. London,. |
12/22/2006 |
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jellied eels, - does anyone know how to make the jelly for jellied eels? the ones you buy in the supermarkets are nothing like the ones you can buy off of a good seafood stall like Tubby Isaacs, how do they get that deliciouse flavour? |
12/22/2006 |
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harringtons - i grew upon pie and mash then went to college on the wandsworth road there was a pie and mash shop across the road i was in there every day.
then finished my apprentiship in tooting where i could continue to eat pie mash andlicker everyday.
now live in suffolk but i regularly have pie and mash from haverhill or get it delivered from http://www.eelhouse.co.uk/
2 of my kids were born in thetford but they have now grown up lovingthe greatest meal ever.
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1/4/2007 |
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PIE &MASH FIRM/JELLIED EEL CREW - UP NORTH WE CALL WEST HAM UTD FANS THE PIE & MASH FIRM AND MILLWALL FANS ARE KNOWN AS THE JELLIED EEL CREW.I DID HAVE SOME ONCE WHEN WE WE PLAYED WEST HAM AND MY CHEEKY CHIRPY EAST END COCKNEY MATE TOOK ME TO A PIE AND MASH BEFORE THE GAME.I MUST SAY THE PIE AND MASH WAS NICE WITH THE GREEN GRAVY BUT WHY DONT YOU COCKNEYS USE KNIFES TO EAT YOUR FOOD. |
1/5/2007 |
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PIE, MASH AND LQUOR - I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN ORBA ON THE COSTA BLANCA FOR NEARLY 35 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN CRAVING FOR PIE AND MASH. MANY RESTAURANTS HERE HAVE PUT IT ON THEIR MENU AND TONIGHT I HAVE BEEN TO CALPE TO TRY ANOTHER RESTAURANT. I HAVE NOT HAD ONE YET THAT IS EVEN CLOSE TO THE ONES I HAD IN MANZES IN BERMONDSEY AND PECKHAM. WENT TO PECKHAM LAST YEAR BUT THEY WERE CLOSED. WILL TRY AGAIN THIS YEAR. JOHN WOODALL codayma@terra.es |
1/6/2007 |
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pie and mash - oh my god, i thought i was the only one who ever craved for my pie and mash from walthamstow high street e 17. i moved to northampton and miss it so much, tried the one at waltham abbey, but the pies are not the same, |
1/8/2007 |
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Pie Mash & Liquor - We have a pie and mash shop in Newquay Cornwall,we buy the pie's from Goddards of Greenwich frozen shipped down to us and we cook them on site, so when we require them, we cook them from frozen so you know they are alway's fresh and very good quality, so when you are on holiday come and try them 15 EAST ST NEWQUAY TELEPHONE 01637 870666 |
1/11/2007 |
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Pie Mash & liquor Newquay - Tried it in Newquay While I was ther over Christmas, as good as Goddards anyday.KEEP UP THE GOOD FOOD SEE YOU LATER IN THE YEAR HOPE IT STAY'S AS GOOD |
1/11/2007 |
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ARMENTS - I thoroughly agree with the description given on the 11th August 2006, BUT Arments shop is actually in Westmorland Road, S.E.17, the small market OFF Walworth Road.Don't know why I'm doing this it will start to get too crowded. |
1/12/2007 |
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Essex Pies - Would agree with the ablve comments about Robins and Manzies. They are simply the best. There was an okay pie n mash shop in Chelmsford but it closed last year. The one in Maldon was okay and I'm heading off to Walton today to try that one.
There was a pie and mash society a few years ago, don't know if it's still going but they produced a list of shops worldwide. I seem to remember there being one in Perth, Australia. |
1/13/2007 |
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Pie and Mash online - I have not tried this site but I have found a Pie and Mash order online servis=ce that deliveres to the whole of mainland UK
http://www.eelhouse.co.uk/
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1/14/2007 |
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pie and mash - Tucked away by harrow green on the leytonstone high Rd is a pie and mash shop which is owned by a family who have been in the trade for over 100yrs. If I remember correctly its called the eel and pie house and was relocated from the bow Road in the late seventies. Went in there to have my first pie and mash since 1968 when my family moved to oxfordshire and i can tell you i was gobsmacked at the price- £1.30 for pie and mash.We had 6pies 6 mash and stewed eels and mash for under a tenner. Couldn't believe anything was so cheap anymore. Are they all so inexpensive? My elderly mum reckoned this was the real McCoy- no sausage and mash or pease pudding in this one just pie, mash, eels and a drink. And she should know, she virtually lived in the bow shop when she was growing up. Anybody else remember the shop in the Bow Road [opposite the Bow church]. I just wish they did p&m mail order! |
1/15/2007 |
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Cookes near Dalston Junction.. - Used to use Cookes near Dalston Junction..shut down and now a chinese eatery..always remembered to look other way when queueing for my Pie & Mash.. as did'nt want to watch man cutting the heads off and gutting the live eels people would buy from shop front.. sawdust on floor, marble tables, terrific grub, live over in Ealing west London.. so will prob try the goldhawk Rd Cookes, not sure if same people though...
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1/16/2007 |
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Pie and mash - Camden - Jus got back to the office from lunch - pie and mash and liquer on Royal Colleges Street, Camden (just off Camden Road), no one seem to have mentioned this shop yet. Lovely freshly made pies, liquer is a bit pale, lovely mash, and gorgeous treackle sponge pudding in an ocean of custard... It was packed out, the queue running around the block. No tiles on the wall though... But the old wood panelling looks nice. |
1/20/2007 |
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Make it yourself - The pies are made from hot water pastry i.e hot water and lard heated together mixed with flour and salt.Potatoes are just mashed nothing added.The liquor is fish stock cubes or powder made up with water thickened with flour and water flaked together,tiny drop of green food colouring and parsley ,dry or fresh.Pie mash was a bye product of stewed and jelled eels once upon a time. Good Luck. |
1/23/2007 |
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Roys Dagenham Heathway - Lived in the East End all my life this is the real macoy......... |
1/24/2007 |
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pie and mash in norfolk - a little riverside pub called the GLOBE INN at UPWELL has just started serving pie and mash with his homemade liqour, we tried it and it was gorgeous the landlord exp[lained that the liqour is the same recipe that his dad used when serving stewed eels 40 yrs ago as a saturday tea along with local samphire,cockles,mussels,winkles and butts and dabs they had caught along with the eels on the fringes of the wash.it serves up at 7pm on a wednesday best to book on 01945 773786 |
1/25/2007 |
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pie and mash liquor - has anyone ever heard or putting mint into the ingredients to make the liquor, |
1/27/2007 |
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am having a party - i need to know the best way of keeping pie and mash warm? we are having people over and eating pie and mash, what i want is to be able to serve it up and for it to taste like it has just been plated up fresh from a shop, any ideas would be appreciated, thanks. |
1/31/2007 |
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Manzes Pie & Mash Online Delivery - For those of you that need your Manzes' Pie & Mash, they are starting a delivery service soon, check theyre site www.manzes.co.uk |
1/31/2007 |
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GLOBE INN UPWELL NORFOLK - visited this pub last week absolutely brilliant(i used to run an eel stall many moons ago) he also had eels and cockles on offer, but alas we came on a saturday night and they only cook to order other than wed/thursday, so we will phone in future because it is well worthwhile |
2/3/2007 |
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New In Milton Keynes - Just opened in MK (Oliver Road,Bletchley) Huge Que, Great Pie n Mash, Singles, Doubles and more. Liquor from Bethnal Green, Well worth the wait. they even had sawdust on the floor. I went Today and gave it a go, was so popular they were having a job to keep up with demand. I put it in my top five pie n Mash shops. (Manzes still No 1) Steve,MK. |
2/3/2007 |
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SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE (just as well) - Went to HARRINGTONS in tooting yesterday 9/2/07 and its the same as i remember it as a kid my family left london in 1969 when i was 11. The bench seats and table tops are the same the bowls are the same and best of all the pie and mash is the same.
i used to bunk off school from franciscan jnrs to have a sixpenny bowl of mash and licker. what ever price it becomes its well worth it. Im glad that little bit of tooting HASN'T changed |
2/10/2007 |
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pie mash and liquor - for all u people out there who no longer live in london like me and love ur pie and mash sainsburys sell it in there frozen dept its very nice only just over a pound per serving go on try it what can u loose. |
2/21/2007 |
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Pie and Mash not in London - A Pie Mash and Jellied Eel shop has just opened in Milton Keynes |
2/21/2007 |
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PIE PASTRY RECIPE - I was told by my brother whos wife worked in a pie & mash shop that the pies pastry was made from shue pastry,dont sound right to me but i will check it out again. |
3/1/2007 |
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FROZEN PIE & MASH - Shop bought frozen pie & mash is nice and cheap but there is not enough liquor in it, you can buy any lamb pie and mash your own pots but its the liquor that makes the dish. if anyone wants to try it- go ahead. |
3/1/2007 |
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LEICESTER PIE&MASH SHOP - IS THE PIE&MASH SHOP IN THE MARKET PLACE IN LEICESTER STILL OPEN AND WHAT IS IT CALLED.
THANKYOU |
3/1/2007 |
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PIE N MASH - IM A COCKNEY GEEZER WHO LIVES ON PIE N MASH FOR FORTY YEARS MAN N BOY
BE LUCKY I-O-D |
3/7/2007 |
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Manze online - Manze started their online ordering today at www.manze.co.uk. Will be ordering mine! Oldest and most authentic pie & mash. Prices are really good, too with delivery through the UK. Can't wait!!! |
3/8/2007 |
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Pie mash shop in leicester market - the pie mash shop in leicester market place has now closed down, does anyone know if there is another one in leicester or very close by.
Cheers all you pie n mash lovers.
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3/10/2007 |
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PIE 'n' MASH Caterers - Does anyone know of any companys that do traditional pie, mash n liquor for occasions such as weddings?????? Goddards in Greenwich, London used to do it but have now closed. Can anyone help??? |
3/20/2007 |
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delivery of the old pie and mash - good news to all i have just been informed y my brother who lives in peckham south london that manzies now deliver in the uk a min odrer is not required i am about to try and get some delivered i will let you know how i get on also if you are in weymouth they have a shop on the sea front that has a delivery every first friday of every month price a bit steep but i have been informed its the real mccoy GAZZO
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3/25/2007 |
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out of london - i have just been informed that manzies now deliver pie and mash in anywhere in the uk my brother who lives in peckham is going to send me the leaflet about it in the next few weeks
keep looking i will let you all know how it goes
also every first friday of very month there is a sea front cafe in WEYMOUTH that is selling it delivered from walworth road arments pie and mash |
3/25/2007 |
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PIE & MASH - IVE BEEN EATING PIE&MASH FOR YEARS I ALWAYS GO TO COOKES IN SHEPHERDS BUSH NEXT DOOR TO MARKET ITS THE BEST ONE!!!! I LIVE IN HERTFORDSHIRE & ALWAYS TRAVEL TO BUSH TO GET PIE&MASH BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANYONE CAN TELL ME IF THERE IS ANY PIE&MASH SHOPS IN HERTFORDSHIRE! PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!! |
3/27/2007 |
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Pie and Mash Catering - My local pie and mash shop caters for events (ie weddings etc) - Have a look at www.gkellypieandmash.co.uk
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4/4/2007 |
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The P& M experience - Being a courier who grew up on Manzes walthamstow and cookes dalston i never thought you could get better but Kellys in roman road is spot on i have visited around 20 different mash shops and recommend them highly also waltham abbey one is good and the one one angies i think near pilgims hatch brentwood(tucked away off high street) |
4/18/2007 |
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!!!! THERE IS ONLY ONE PIE, MASH & EEL SHOP!!! - !!! The best pies, dark tops slightly crispy, and dream mash with wonderful creamy liquer not too thich though! and to top it all they now open on Sunday at discounted rates! |
4/19/2007 |
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!!!! THERE IS ONLY ONE PIE, MASH & EEL SHOP!!! - ROBINS
HIGH ST NORTH
EAST HAM
LONDON |
4/19/2007 |
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EAST HAM!!! - I grew up in East Ham and often went to the Pie and Mash shop in Barking Road. I miss it so much!!! I keep going on to my partner and friends about how good pie and mash is and how much I miss it but they don't seem to get it. They look at me blankly as if I'm just talking about 'pie' and 'mash' - what's so special about that? I just can't describe that wonderful thin pastry, the lovely mince, the liquor... all drenched with vinegar and pepper. Yum yum. I've heard there's a pie and mash in Hastings but I've never been there. Anyone know of it? |
4/20/2007 |
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Cockney living in Western Australia - I remember going to a pie and mash in a shop near Earlsfied Station - South London as a teenager (I lived on Aboyne Council Estate), it was great.They also made their own cherry pies as well - yum.
I watch 'the bill'on the telly in OZ to see if I can see a pie and mash shop- but all I see is 'soul food'!Gimme cockney food any day cobber! |
5/1/2007 |
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ARMENTS!!!!! - GOOD QUALITY FOOD!!! what else can i say |
5/1/2007 |
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Arments - I like Arments Pie and Mash, especailly the young lad working at the back. I think he makes the Liquor and mash and also the ovens. He is so polite and helpful that it makes me come back for more pie and mash. I think he`s name is Paul |
5/1/2007 |
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EEL PIE ISLAND GILLINGHAM - Much to my surprise, I found their food actually more enjoyable than the both the Hackney & Greenwich shops... Definitely recommend it, plus the guy told me how to make liquor (properly)... roll aat the barra... Marvelous. |
5/19/2007 |
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Snobby old Surrey - Does anybody know of a Pie & Mash shop in the Godalming/Guildford (or general Surrey) area? I am gagging. |
5/19/2007 |
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no pie&mash on a sunday????????? - your having a laugh surely.
Ignore everyones ramblings,the best pie and mash is made at the fiddlers in dagenham and your moaning
you can't get pies on a sunday.I drive the thirty miles there from my house in essex and it's worth every mile.Can't get pies on sundays buy them on saturday night and warm them up for crists sake.
god I miss them pies and the best mash ever.
First meal I can remember in there single pie and mash 1/6 about 7.5p year 1963 and it's as good today as it was then.
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5/20/2007 |
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- There's a Manze in Sutton, Surrey if thats any help |
5/20/2007 |
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Great Yarmouth Shop Closed - The Market Place P&M shop is for sale. Bad news for us in Norfolk ... anyone know where nearset one is? Ive been told there is one in North Essex a few miles from Stansted ..... anyone confirm? |
5/25/2007 |
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Pie and Mash Shop in Holborn - Try Clarke's Pie and Mash Shop, Exmouth Market, London EC1 - I think they are still hanging on there despite the posh shops moving in. |
5/26/2007 |
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- jd`s in clacton if thats any help |
5/27/2007 |
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Portobello Road - I'm pretty sure the Pie and Mash shop in Portobello Road market has closed. I think it was called 'Cockney Pie and Mash.' |
6/16/2007 |
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help i want PIE!!! - come on people is there no one that knows how t make that damb pie? my husband is dirving me crazy!! i have to get it for my sanity sake!!! please we are in cape town SA so abit too far away to get the recipie myself. help CApe town!!!! e-mail me at amy.cloete@yahoo.com PLEASE |
6/25/2007 |
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Croydon Pie & Mash - There is a Pie and Mash shop in Church Street, Central Croydon, just off Surrey street Market. Very traditional, simple bench seats but nice grub! marc_caucutt@hotmail.com |
7/1/2007 |
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pie and mash - i have just moved to kings lynn norfolk from dagenham does anyone know where i can get some good old pie and mash |
7/8/2007 |
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Real Pie and Mash Recipe - There are a lot of people with different ideas on how to make Pie and Liquor on this forum
Has anyone actually tried to make it?
If so which was the best way to do make it so it tastes like the real thing?
Any help would be very much appreciated Please email me with the best recipe :- paul.woodman@tesco.net |
7/11/2007 |
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pie and mash - http://www.eelhouse.co.uk/
Place Your Order
We Now Make Deliveries To You on:
Tuesdays - Wednesdays - Thursdays - Fridays
You can place your order straight into the freezer to have another day, or in the refrigerator which must be eaten within three (3 days) following delivery.
Delivered to Mainland UK Only
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7/14/2007 |
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dd - the pie and mash shop in walton on the naze is beautiful every time i go down there i cnt help but eat in and take some away to bring home it delicious very busy in the summers and the staff are very helpful and friendly |
7/17/2007 |
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Herne Bay - Herne Bay bottom of Kent has opened up a new one and its exceelent and open on sundays too well worth a go |
7/17/2007 |
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pie and mash shops - hi guys and girls, the best pie and mash shop is kellys its in roman road bow,
they have two shops one is the origanal and the other is up to date and moden.
they are both on the same road but at different ends.
the origanal is the same as it was in the old days ,sawdust on floors even the tiles on the wall are old,so if its real old style pie and mash you want this would be a good time to get down there and give it a bash. |
7/22/2007 |
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Job Offered - I'm opening a Pie &Mash shop in Dagenham and Elm Park Essex and am looking for an experienced Pie & Mash: Pie chef/cook.
Please contact Bob EMail
oysterproperties@btinternet.com |
7/22/2007 |
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7/22/2007 |
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buying on line - you can buy it on line at eelhouse.co.uk it is really well packed and it is delivered to you quite quickly too and it took me back to my childhood days |
8/6/2007 |
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new pie and mash shop - did you know theres a new pie and mash shop in bletchley near milton keynes who would have thought that. i was brought up on pie and mash in leytonstone. couldnt get enough of it. Now we`ve moved to Bletchley its great. So anyone living near by , get yourself down there. It LOVELY. REALLY IT IS. |
8/8/2007 |
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You can get pie and mash delivered - They courier it to you. i just typed pie and mash into google and up came take away delivery service anywhere in UK. Havent tried it yet but might give it a go. I'll let you know what its like ;) |
9/2/2007 |
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You can get pie and mash delivered - They courier it to you. i just typed pie and mash into google and up came take away delivery service anywhere in UK. Havent tried it yet but might give it a go. I'll let you know what its like ;) |
9/2/2007 |
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miss my pie mash - Best pie mash shop is Arments off Walworth rd.I live in the west midlands now went down a couple months ago had my pie mash stewed eels yummy my mouth is watering know.Dont half miss it.If i owned my own shop there would be one customer ME |
9/9/2007 |
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Any PIE&MASH shop in Germany??? - Staying in DÜSSELDORF/GERMANY for 25years now, but I've neva found a P&M shop ova here.
Maybe my friends from "HORNCHURCH/ESSEX" have a clue....
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9/13/2007 |
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Pie and Mash in Yorkshire?? - Im getting married in N Yorkshire next summer but I am a East End/Essex girl at heart so would love a pie and mash caterer for my London themed wedding. Does anyone know anywhere that could cater this area ????? |
9/30/2007 |
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Pie and Mash in Yorkshire?? - Im getting married in N Yorkshire next summer but I am a East End/Essex girl at heart so would love a pie and mash caterer for my London themed wedding. Does anyone know anywhere that could cater this area ????? |
9/30/2007 |
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Walthamstow Pie and Mash - My husband wants to celebrate his 50th in Manze's in the High Street - could someone confirm it is still up and running and as good as it was 40 years ago???!!! |
10/1/2007 |
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Stevenage pie and mash? - hi, i have heard there's a pie and mash restaurant that also sells other traditional eastenders food that is in stevenage old town next to a pub, but i have no idea where it actually is. can anyone help?! or do they know their details? |
10/4/2007 |
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Pie and Mash Memories - I remember "Williams" Pie shop in Holloway Road, almost opposite the North London Polytechnic. A triangular shaped shop that narrowed down to one corner seat looking out of the window watching the world go by! Then next door but one into "Atkins" chemist shop for a Sarspirella, hot in winter and cold in summer.
We were spoilt for Pie and Mash shops locally. Manzes in Chapel Street Market and another Manzes at Archway. Berts in Copenhagan Street down the "Cally". And the best of all, - Fred Cooke's in Kingsland Road, Dalston, open 'till midnight Fridays and Saturdays too! |
10/9/2007 |
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what are you talking about? - you people are crzy you dont know what your talking about!!!!♥ |
10/16/2007 |
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what are you talking about? - you people are crzy you dont know what your talking about!!!!♥ |
10/16/2007 |
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Great Yarmouth - Great news - the pie and mash shop has reopened - Tuesday to Saturday till 4.00pm each day. Its in the market place at the far end away from the shops.
There is also a fairly decent shop in Essex at Haverhill. |
10/23/2007 |
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Pie,Mash-n-Liquor memories. - The best ever pie n mash I had was from Georges down the old Hermit Road in Canning Town.I moved away from London quite afew years ago now and miss it desparately.I was weened on the stuff as a baby and would so love my 2 1/2 year old son to try some.I now live on the Lincolnshire coast and you can't get it anywhere up here plus when you mention it to anybody they look at you like you are a nutter!!! Me thinks they are the nutters for looking at me that way!!!!! |
10/29/2007 |
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Pie and Mash online!! - Expensive but you can order it for nationwide delivery www.eelhouse.co.uk no idea what its like though |
11/2/2007 |
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The Eel and Pie House in Leytonstone - The Eel and Pie House in Leytonstone was brilliant! Looked still old from the 70s with wooden benches and steel top tables. Cost about 7 pounds for 4 pies and 4 maches + 2 drinks. |
11/3/2007 |
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hi there - Im a pie mash lover and moved to kent...i miss it so much haha...my husband visits london and buys it me in bulk lol so im quite lucky..anyway thought i'd post this link as it might be useful to some people its pie mash delivered to your door.. woo hoo!
http://www.eelhouse.co.uk/cafes.html
hope this links useful to someone take care
Jodie |
11/29/2007 |
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Cheapest - Where is the cheapest pie and mash. 1pie and 1 mash with liquer. Is there anywhere under £2.00? Only post if you know for sure. No guesswork or "about"s! I'd love to know how cheap it can go down to. |
12/19/2007 |
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THE cheapest - Leytonstone High Road:
Single pie n mash £1.55 |
12/30/2007 |
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pie 'n' mash - pie and mash is coming soon to norfolk from the eastend |
1/12/2008 |
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pie 'n' mash - pie and mash is coming soon to norfolk from the eastend |
1/12/2008 |
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norfolk - where? already one in gt yarmouth |
1/16/2008 |
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pie' n' mash - comeing soon to wisbech! |
1/16/2008 |
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norfolk - whats the name? |
1/17/2008 |
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pie' n' mash - the pie and mash shop is comeing soon i will keep you all informed |
1/18/2008 |
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Swindon in wiltshire - Bramptons pie shop in swindon town centre. Pie/mash/liquer for £3.00.
Also the cafe next door belongs to Millwall supporter,ask for barry.
From one of many swindon lions |
1/21/2008 |
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pie and mash in Norfolk - There is an excellent P&M shop on the market place in Great Yarmouth, i dont know what part you live in, but i have worked in chip shop's for about ten years now and on this very day we have onion vinegar on the counter!!!!!! |
1/25/2008 |
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THE BEST - I am a member of the pie'n'mash club, in my opinion the only pie'n'mash shop that was the bench mark for all the pie shops was Cookes of Dalston, sadly they closed now I was there on the last night of trade, it was a sad night in many ways, but the perfume, the sound, and the taste of that night will live with me for ever, well done Chris & Fred.
PS there are some good seconds out there I will never stop searching. |
1/26/2008 |
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govers watney st E1 - it disaperd about 35 years ago it was great |
2/2/2008 |
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Pie-n-mash Club - Help!! The official site seems to have disappeared.
Does anyone know if, or when, it will be back on the web??
I would love to join, does anyone how I go about? it? |
2/3/2008 |
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recipe - can anyone help me to make the top of the pie i have made over 100 pies but can not get the tops right anyone with the right recipe well get a free trip to cyrpus cheers |
2/18/2008 |
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recipe - can anyone help me to make the top of the pie i have made over 100 pies but can not get the tops right anyone with the right recipe well get a free trip to cyrpus cheers |
2/18/2008 |
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Pie and Mash Shop - New one opening in St. Marychurch Torquay Devon soon. Georges Pie and mash . They will not be baking on the premises but will 'import' from London. I wonder if it will taste as good.? Mags |
2/19/2008 |
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recipe - cyprus sounds nice.....i am off to cookes for lunch,,,,i will ask 4 u .....they may give a clue
but i wiil ask and post later
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2/20/2008 |
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Forget about trying to make it - A short while ago our cuisine was a joke to the world, now we can rejoice in the fact that it is now in great demand, forget trying to make it, it will cost you a small fortune and simply wont taste the same, you need to come to London
(Tooting) and feast on the food for Gods yourselfs.
Although I do simpathise for you who cant make it to London. I also like Scots pie but have not found a better one outside Scotland.
iow4.info |
2/20/2008 |
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Pie and Mash - I think there is a pie and mash shop in Great Yarmouth |
2/21/2008 |
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Greens of Leytonstone - THis shop is still thriving single pie mash and liquor currently £1.65 and you can get your own bottle of chili vinegar to take away for a pound it's fantastic on fish and chips! My thirteen year old daughter drags me down there every Saturday. |
2/24/2008 |
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Closing Down - Bad news for lovers of Pie and Mash. The shop in Bletchley, Milton Keynes is closing on March 8th. Such a shame. I was raised on Walthamstow pie and mash from Manzes - the best..... |
3/7/2008 |
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hahahaha - i find some quiet funny indeed the guy with the aberdeen angus mince meat hahaha pie mash was made very cheaply i can assure you no aberdeen angus is used a few people on here are close i must say the guy that said 50/50 mutton and mince meat is the closest
a little tip remember beef was expensive in them days lamb was not so you didnt get all that much beef in your pies at all also the person that noted about the water baths not being needed you are correct the secret mixture of lamb and mince is put straight into the pie. if you presume by now that i actually do know what im talking about then you would be right. although i could never do something as bad as giving you the exact recipe to one of the best kept food secrets in food to date could i now bye |
3/17/2008 |
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My Pir & Mash - Being a Londoner, this is MY Recipe, 2lb of lean mince meat ( Lamb is preferred but Beef is OK) Parsley (Dried half a bottle, soaked for an hour, Fresh A packet or about 4 table spoons or Frozen) or to ones taste, Malt Vinegar, one cup full, Corn flour, 2 teas spoons heaped mixed with water, Pasty buy Jus-rol frozen sheets, Put meat in sauce pan just cover with cold water add a little salt, heat and simmer for about 30 mins, Strain AND KEEP LIQUID, leave meat to one side, cool liquid, when cold skim off fat, pour into saucepan, add Parsley, Corn flour and Vinegar heat very slowly, Peel and cook Potatoes, Keep liquid and 1 potato mash this and put into Liquor, add Potato Water if Vinegar is to sharp, For the Pies, use small baking tins, line with puff pastry but prick the base, fill with meat, add 2 teas spoons of Potato water, water around top , put on pastry lid seal and cook until lightly brown (Gas Mark 4-5) for about 20 -25 mins, roughly mash potato, to serve, use a large cereal bowl put pie to one side, fill bowl with mash, pour over liquor, shake on ground white and black pepper, salt and a little vinegar, ENJOY, We had this 19-3-08
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3/21/2008 |
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pie and mash in london - I have been eating Pie and Mash for as long as I can remember. My earliest recollection was a in a Pie &Mash Eels and liquor shop in Peckham in the early 1960s. It had green tiles around the walls, wooden benches to sit on with high backs so you couldn’t see the table behind you. The wooden floor was covered in sawdust and you ate on a marble table top with ornate carved green iron table legs.
The pies were always piping hot and the mash wiped on the plate with a very large spoon and parsley sauce or liquor poured over the top until it ran off the plate. Most people would eat with a spoon and fork rarely with a knife.
The Pie and Mash shops were situated not far from industrial or dock areas of London. I was told once that the sawdust on the floor was to assist the sweeping up of eel bones expelled by the Dockers as they feasted.
I grew up near Walworth road SE17 and would visit Arments Pie and Mash on Saturday afternoon with a couple of friends, then off for a pint in the Temple bar. Arments was situated opposite East street market. A second shop opened in Westmoreland road, then, many years later the shop opposite East Street closed.
I’ve tasted Pie and Mash at various shops. Angel Islington, The Cut, Peckham, the Old Kent road. There is one over in Farringdon and luckily, for me, one in Sutton, were I work. They are all very delicious.
However, the one in Croydon is disappointing they fall short with the mash. They use an ‘ice cream scoop’ so two small scoops is one mash. After you dish the meal on the plate you need to cook more mash as I did today. Apart from that, long live Pie and Mash......Bob Croydon
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3/22/2008 |
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New pie and mash venu!!! - For those of you that love pie and mash, try the Curlew Public house in South Woodham Ferrers (80 Gandalfs ride CM3 5XZ).
We used to buy our pies in From Robins but we are really proud to make our own pies and liquor now! We serve Pie and mash all day friday and saturdays. Come down and give us a try! |
4/1/2008 |
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what about maggie browns - what no mention of maggie browns in battersea high street they used to que round the block on a friday, the best in south london my aunt and uncle used to run it, wish i knew the recipe for the pies as i now have a cafe on the isle of wight and would love to do a pie and mash night |
4/1/2008 |
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Look up the Page !! - What about Maggie Browns, well, try the one above (printed Pir & Mash, a spelling mistake !!) We had this tonight still very good try it and see. I used to live in Hackey, from there I would go to Cooks and Mensies (in Roman Rd, Bow) on to Wells Street in Hackney, moving on to Chattsworth, then to Londonfields back to Walthamstow and stop at WhiteChappel, this was all around the time of 1964, not sure how many are still there now. |
4/2/2008 |
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Online Pie Mash - You can buy pie mash online, Manzies do it, i sent some to my parents for their anniversary and they loved it! Living in Yorkshire as i do now, i'm always keen to get to Harringtons Pie Mash shop in tooting (seeings my local one on the wandsworth road closed some years ago) Manzies is the next best thing and being able to have it sent to the north of england just fills me with a sick sense of joy....who needs pie and peas!!!?? |
4/3/2008 |
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Oneline Pie and Mash - Manze's pie and mash delivery is brilliant. They deliver to Isle of Wight if the person with the cafe didn't realise that. |
4/6/2008 |
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Eel and pie shop on Harrow Green Leytonstone - Moved to Margate 7 years ago but was working in Walthamstow, where i grew up, recently.
Completely forgot about Manzes in the High St. I would have thought it had closed down by now.
Anyway,i tried my luck on the way home and popped to Leytonstone. Deep joy!!!!!!!!
Double pie double mash 3 squids.
Brought some home for my boys as well. Posted the last one through my neighbours letter box!!!!
As said before, don't try and make it. My mums the best cook in the world and even she can't get it right!!!!
Going to the Spurs on Saturday so might pop to manzes.
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4/8/2008 |
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THE CURLEW - SOUTH WOODHAM FERRERS - I can confirm the recent entry anout 'The Curlew' in South Woodham Ferrers - they do cracking Pie & Mash and the chef makes his own pies. Wicked chilli vinegar too. Check their website : www.thecurlew.co.uk |
4/18/2008 |
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jellied ells,cockles, mussels, crab sticks etc - does anyone know where these little sellers are that normally appear outside pubs in their little white huts - place in north london please. |
5/25/2008 |
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PIE, MASH & LIQUOR NOW IN NORTHAMPTON - I've just made a real find in Northampton. The WIG AND PEN, public house in St. Giles Street, has introduced Pie,Mash and Liquor onto its menu. It's made on the premises and is absolutely delicious, as good as I've had anywhere!! I hope that information is useful to all of you in denial. Their phone no. is 01604 622178 |
6/4/2008 |
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Good old pie and mash yummmm! - Have lived in Australia 44 years now and I used to go to Watney street pie and mash shop all the time with my friends. I wish someone would open up a pie and mash shop here in Perth, so many people here ask for pie and mash. Wouldn't be so bad if you could make it but you need the exact recipe.I am going to the U.K next week and Will be heading to Manzes near Tower Bridge as soon as we check our bags into our hotel. I can't wait! |
7/16/2008 |
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pie and mash in eastbourne - A pie and mash shop opened in eastbourne this year, owners used to run one in south london, its the real deal and i'm happy cos i missed my pie an mash when i moved to the coast, used to go to goddards in greenwich or depford mainly in the past. Long live pie and mash! |
8/3/2008 |
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Nathan's - Nathans is not the best pie & mash shop near West Ham football ground - its the one opposite the station. Also the BEST in the world is at Walton on the Naze. |
8/25/2008 |
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stevenage - There is a bakers in stevenage town center that does pie and mash.Its not bad but not as good as cockneys |
11/14/2008 |
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Secret Recipe - My first ever job as a 14 year old was Kelly's Pie and Mash Shop in Roman Road, where the famous Roman Road Market is (East End).
After washing dishes for a long time we were allowed to help with the pie and liquor making and yes it has a lot to do with the high temperature of the ovens for the pies, the pies only have mince and gravy with one other secret ingredient. The liquor is easy to make at home, many years ago eel juice was used but boiling water replaced it later on. The colour is not just the pasley there is another ingredient and all you need is boiling water, batter, salt and pasley, the secret is in the mixing or whisking using the correct phrase. I would like to tell you all the whole truth but I am still at 40 years old now, guarding the original recipe and not sharing with masses of people on the net. I do however share with individuals who love the food as much as I. |
12/19/2008 |
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liquor for pie and mash - basic recipe fish stock cubes 1 per half pint,parsley, water, to thicken cornflour mixed with a little milk. |
3/20/2009 |
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liquor for pie and mash - basic recipe fish stock cubes 1 per half pint,parsley, water, to thicken cornflour mixed with a little milk. |
3/20/2009 |
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local pie and mash - i live in dunstable bedfordshire. does any one know if there are any pie mash shops near or around me,, thanks |
3/27/2009 |
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The Pie Mash secret - I was brought up on pie mash as a kid living in East Ham. As I grew older, it was Pie Mash and a pint before kick off at west ham. Cooksies in High street North was one of the best, but now long gone. A good one now is in Romford, but VERY expensive. My wife and I have tried many times to cook something like the originals, but fail. People say the recipe is closely guarded, but I think the secret is not the filling, its the pastry. I havnt tried this yet, but I think its water pastry cooked in a few inches of water, so its really steamed, the bottom of the pie is that soft pale texture and the top is a bit firmer. I intend to try it this week. |
4/20/2009 |
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- there is a pie and mash in stevenage hertfordshire. the indoor market. the snack shack eat in or take away |
4/24/2009 |
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east enders - Im from the East End and love my Pie n Mash!!! have left behind the best eva in the Crisp St Market London E14 called Maureens but i want to find one in Cralwey West Sussex where i live now :-( |
5/12/2009 |
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east enders - Im from the East End and love my Pie n Mash!!! have left behind the best eva in the Crisp St Market London E14 called Maureens but i want to find one in Cralwey West Sussex where i live now :-( |
5/12/2009 |
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Pie and mash delivery - THERE IS PIE AND MASH DELIVERY!
M.Manzes Pie and Mash shop (the longest running original pie and mash shop!) now do delievery anywhere in the UK and to a few other places. Its sent out chilled and is a fab service I would definatly recommend it. I live in North Wales at Uni and I get it sent up every few months its great. Check out their website :)
www.manze.co.uk
Enjoy x |
5/17/2009 |
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Great Pie and Mash - Pie And Mash shop in Pallister Road, Clacton on Sea |
5/21/2009 |
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JD's Pie and Mash - Pallister Road, Clacton on Sea |
5/21/2009 |
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Pie and Mash (Cockney Girl born and raised) - You lot aint got a scooby, Manzes Tower Bridge Road (Bermndsey, South-East London), and Arments (Westmoreland Road, SE Ldn) are the best for Pie mash and lovely green liquor! I'm 22 and was born and raised on the Old Kent Road (still remember the fish and meat man coming round the pubs on a Sunday with Jellied Eeels and Cockles, shame all the pubs shutting down) and my mum used to get us Pie 'n' Mash for dinner every Thursday when i was younger (mummy getting it tonight woohoo), my boyfriend still goes Arments with the boys every Saturday before Millwall at home.
You don't get Pie 'n Mash outside London as it's a working class cockney meal, my nans said meat was expensive back then so when you did get hold of it, (or nick it) most of it was probably going off so you'd put the meat in the pastry, and use the liquor and loads of vinegar to disguise the taste. Now it's got right trendy and you got the mockneys queuing to get in on it like it's a badge of honour which i don't understand it was like our version of a curry or spag bowl. The Northerners think it's rotten hence why they turn their noses up, plus the green liquor tend to put people off. They don't even have saveloys up North!!!!
Only one way to eat Pie 'n' Mash, you have the pie upside down (crispy side on the bottom) and you slice open the soft bits so you got almost flaps, pour in Sarsons or Condiment vinegar (loads of it) then make a hole in your mash and make a puddle of vinegar and then mix it in so the mash goes a light brown.
Now a good bit of Bubble and Squeak is very hard to come by, you gotta get it just right so it's cripsy on the outside, but not quite burnt, yet soft on the inside... but not gooey! |
5/27/2009 |
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cockney girl - you ain`t got a clue, you ain`t even a cockney your talking like your some old girl your only 22 years of age you don`t know nothing. irons! |
5/27/2009 |
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Pie and Mash (Cockney Girl born and raised) - Ha ha how old are you? It's not a cockney competition it's Pie 'n' Mash you f*cking pleb, what's your problem anyway we're all having a nice chat and you come on here getting lemon giving it 'Irons'. You probably never been Upton in your life 'Mockney Girl'
I'm crying, seriously how do i talk like an old girl, and how do i know nothing when i've named two Pie 'n Mash shops i use regularly, not just when i'm London or feel like getting back to my roots, and my family have been using Manzies and Arments in SE london for over 60 years? |
5/28/2009 |
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pie and mash - manzes deliver pie and mash anywhere in england we have just ordered and we live in scotland ordered today should be thurs/fri can't wait |
7/27/2009 |
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pie and mash - we have just ordered from Manzes and thety deliver anywhere in england we ordered today and should get in thurs/fri cant wait |
7/27/2009 |
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pie and mash - Manzes deliver pie and mash in england |
7/27/2009 |
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7/27/2009 |
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manzies pie and mash - we live in scotland and manzies deliver pie and mash to us any anywhere in the country order via email or post if you have no computer |
8/19/2009 |
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Goddards pie house in Greenwich - Used to go to Goddards loads when they were in Greenwich, gutted when they closed down. They still do pie and mash at the weekend by Greenwich market. Rumour has it that they will soon be doing delivery and bulk orders for parties etc. |
9/1/2009 |
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How do you eat yours? - How do you eat you're pie & mash?
The way since world war 2 for "proper" cockneys is with a fork & spoon (The knives were taken during ww2 to be melted down to make planes)it always makes me laugh when you see dick's in pie shops eating it with a knife & fork and i bet most the visitors to this site eat their pie & mash that way too!!
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9/9/2009 |
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Manzies - Always found Manzies a bit bland for Pie & Mash.
Arment's selling pie & mash online would make a fortune i think same as Harringtons over in Sw London ahh if only :)
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9/9/2009 |
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stevenage pie n mash - THE JUST CRUST PIE CO IN SEVENAGE SELL PIE N MASH THAY ARE OPEN WEDNESDAY TO SATURDAY CALL 01438 746 748 FREE DELIVERY |
9/23/2009 |
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pie and Mash Barking.Essex. - just what happen pie & mash at East Street Barking. essex. they say closed down now..WHY CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY. |
9/30/2009 |
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Makr your own pie,mash and liquor - I wondered for years how to replicate the distintive flavours of this great dish - I now have found a way that seems very near to authentic.
I made one with MUtton and one with shin beef.
About 10ozs of meat was finely minced and put in a ppan with 3/4 pint of fish stock made with a stock cube. This was simmered for 1 hour and allowed to go cold.
the pastry was made with 10ozs of plain flour and a pinch of salt and 4ozs of lard which was melted down and added to the flour with about 2 tablespoons of cold water and all stirred with a spoon the mix well. After allowing to go cold the pastry was rolled out a a pie dish lined, the cold filling added and the lot covered with a pastry lid.
THe pie was placed in a tray of water and a bowl of water placed in the bottom of the oven to make for a steam cooking process. the pie was cooked for 35 minutes.
Mas was made as is the normal way.
THe liquor was made by mixing 2 teaspoons of cornflour in 2 tablespoons of milk to which was added 3/4 pint of the same fish stock as above and heated up and a large handfull of chopped fresh parsley added - the lot being simmered for a while to cook and thicken slightly.
I found the resulting taste much the same as the shops and very satisfying. It fed two persons. |
10/8/2009 |
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best ever!!! - The best pie,mash and liqour can be bought in poplar east london, and I don't mean maureens. Its "pie,mash and eels" on the front, off the main road. I've always eaten there. I live in suffolk now but I try to get there every time I'm back home. Trust me it's the best. |
10/17/2009 |
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I take it to northampton for my girlfriend - we have a shop in gillingham high street in kent that I am told is better than some of the london ones |
10/19/2009 |
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I take it to northampton for my girlfriend - we have a shop in gillingham high street in kent that I am told is better than some of the london ones |
10/19/2009 |
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Pie 'n' Mash in Brighton Now! - Traditional London Pie 'n' Mash with liquor now available in Brighton! About time! Check out web site www.ucowson.co.uk
Any feedback or suggestions from lovers of Pie 'n' Mash most welcome! Keep this beautiul dish alive! Memoy food! |
11/19/2009 |
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Pie 'n' Mash in Brighton! - Nice site!!! check out Steve Jones from the Sex Pistols, he loves PM as you mentioned on the site. I saw a dvd with Cook the drummer and him and they ate in Cookes in Shepherds Bush which was used for the Quadrophenia film. |
11/19/2009 |
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Pie 'n' Mash in Brighton Now! - Hahahaha! I know Cookes in Shepherds Bush, my mates family had a fruit & veg stall in the market, the first stall....Cookes is by the traffic lights in Goldhawk Rd. I'm not a cockney, but from Hammersmith and my local shop was Taylors in Hammersmith Broadway. Only a mile apart but there were differences...Cookes used school dinner mashed iced cream scoops for the mash....Taylors plastered the side of the bowl with mash. Ucowson plaster the mash!
Loved an earlier post about WWII and why knives weren't used.....in the late 60s, and to this day I use a spoon! It's just how it's done. Always have a fork....but it never gets used! Hahahaha! I suppose it's there for moral support.
I'll check the Steve Jones and add it to ucowson.co.uk thanks! |
11/19/2009 |
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Pie 'n' Mash in Brighton Now! - I just noticed a couple of spelling mistakes in my first post! I have to admit I had a Pie 'n' Mash takeaway in the oven, so I was a little excited and had one eye elsewhere.....the word was beautiful and memory, just to prove I can spell! Hahahaha! A couple of hours have gone by and I still have that glow! |
11/19/2009 |
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WWW.EELHOUSE.CO.UK - WWW.EELHOUSE.CO.UK |
12/5/2009 |
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New Pie and Mash Website - There's a new Pie and Mash website at http://www.pie-and-mash.com . It has a full listing (with details) of every known P&M shop and you can review and rate your favourites (and unfavourites). There's tons of information about pie and mash and you can share your memories with other like minded pie'n'mashers.
Mal
Editor
http://www.pie-and-mash.com |
1/8/2010 |
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pie and mash - I remember the pie and mash shop in bow road was the best one around, now it is the one in Roman Road nr St Stevens Road End, the one in Greenwich has gone mores the pitty that was the best one outside of Bow.
So I am told, the pastry is made from plain flour a little oil, suet and water, make into a dough and let rest for a while in the fridge, kneed a little then roll. If you can't get eel juice for the liquor use the potato water with chopped parsley and a little plain flour, mix the flour and parsley with a little cold water to make a paste then add the boiling potato water. My aunt used to work in the pie and mash shop that used to be in Stratford, this is what I watched her do when making it at home. Hope it works for you....enjoy. |
1/16/2010 |
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pie and mash - I remember the pie and mash shop in bow road was the best one around, now it is the one in Roman Road nr St Stevens Road End, the one in Greenwich has gone mores the pitty that was the best one outside of Bow.
So I am told, the pastry is made from plain flour a little oil, suet and water, make into a dough and let rest for a while in the fridge, kneed a little then roll. If you can't get eel juice for the liquor use the potato water with chopped parsley and a little plain flour, mix the flour and parsley with a little cold water to make a paste then add the boiling potato water. My aunt used to work in the pie and mash shop that used to be in Stratford, this is what I watched her do when making it at home. Hope it works for you....enjoy. |
1/16/2010 |
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pie and mash and LICQOUR - Is simple...
3 parts fish stock to 1 part vegetable stock (stock cubes prepared in boiling water are fine).
Cook on a medium heat to a rolling boil. Add 30g (or more - check colour to determine) fresh chopped parsley. Then gradually add tiny bits of cornflour, stirring in well and sitting in between, until sauce is good and thick. Add salt to taste, and ALWAYS make sure to add a dash of vinegar on top of it after poured onto your plate. |
1/26/2010 |
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Theres only one real pie & mash shop. - I've eaten most things over the years but if theres one thing that tastes good its pie & mash.
I've been to pie & mash shops loads of times, wasn't brought up on it, but its a close call.
Years ago those well known fast food shops such as KFC, Burger King, MacDonalds and the likes never existed, and to be honest I can't say if I would have overlooked them as akid.
Kids like to look trendy, and pie & mash just isn't trendy, but, you'll not get a better quick meal, and given the opertunity I'm sure that most kids would prefer P&M anyday if only their mums and dads took the time to introduce them to it.
'What is Pie & Mash', well to answer that is a feat in itself, it can be really good to just plain horrible depending on where you go, and depending on which area of london you come from.
I'm a south londoner, so theres a choice, Manzies, or Arments, however if you want to be well looked after, and well fed then Arments in Westmorland Rd SE5 has to be the place.
Its not because its cheaper than anywhere else as I'm sure that theres possibly a cheaper place to go, but its not expensive, but it is really really good.
Manzies!, loads of people say that manzies is the best, but I'm not so sure, manzies have never really looked as good as arments, manzies always looked like a dirty place to go, they dont use knives, they use spoons, lol, a bit like the one that the Sheriff of Nottingham had in mind for Kevin Kostner in Robin Hood, lol, "I'm use a spoon to cut his heart out", 'Why?', "Because its blunt you fool, it'll hurt more", lol, so if you get the picture, a blunt alliminium desert spoon never really did it for me, and just the one visit was enough, lol.
Would I have gone back if they used knives!, nope, the food was discusting, the liquor was runny, it was like pea green water, nothing like what arments make, and the pies, well there was no contest, the mash, well you might think that mashed potatoe is just mashed potatoe, but its not, its weird, but if a pie & mash shop gets it right, theres nothing on the planet that will beat it.
So there you go, pie & mash is just magic, but the best in the UK really is Arments in SE5, but dont go there on a monday what ever you do, its shut, just as it is on a sunday, however, if you do go on a monday expecting to eat and on getting there find out that its closed, 'And you'd forgot about it being closed', then dont worry, your not going mad, just join the queue, theres loads of people who have done the same, and when it happens!, its horific, like losing the winning lottery ticket, disapointing, and like you've just been bashed up by Mike Tyson, but you dont have the cuts and bruises to proove it, lol.
Oh and to end, the usual warcry on going into arments would have to be, 'Large Pie & Double Mash please, dont go mad with the liquor as I dont want to spill any of it', lol, and if you do like me, buy an extra portion to have another day, forget it, as it'll get eaten later that day as it really is that good, 'The Roving Rabbi'.
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Pie n Mash Outside London - Your best and easyest option is buy online, check the link; http://www.manze.co.uk/index.htm |
2/4/2010 |
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happy memories of pie and mash - my first taste was a place opposite westbourne park station way back in the mid fifties, the second most popular place down portobello road market, when we moved from notting hill to east acton of course it was usualy cookes by shepherds bush market. the last time was at basildon it was very good. now we reside in the norfolk/ suffolk borders and we are getting serious withdrawel symptoms.it's been 8 years now. Dad was a true cockney so we was brought up proper. spoon and fork with spiced vinegar. years may pass but the need has to be filled. now a pint of baldwins(walworth high road) sarsparilla and i'll be ok for another few years
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